Hmm managed to finally solve a problem we were having at work.
I finally got to go and see the other end of the connection that was the problem, hooked into the router at that end - told it to behave, gave it some more info to make it play nice and it did, well port mapping external to internal ip will do that lol (maybe I shouldn't have stuck it in the DMZ) but it worked when we tried it and keep stable for hours lol I go to try it just before leaving as we have to check the remote camera only every so often - and "Nothing" NO... can't be
oh well it was a useful day upto that point
God darn it it will be something equally STUPID (like me!)
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